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PLEASE CIRCULATE WIDELY, ESPECIALLY TO YOUR U.S. FRIENDS - DON NORDIN
The Implications of the Use of U.S. Depleted Uranium Weapons in
Yugoslavia, Afghanistan and Iraq
(Don Nordin's interview with Leuren Moret)
Hello, this is Don Nordin. You're listening to the Monday
Brownbagger (Vancouver Cooperative Radio - 102.7 fm) of February 23,
2004 and I will have on the line in a moment a guest from Berkeley.
Her name is Leuren Moret. She is an independent scientist and
international expert on radiation and public health issues. She is on
the organizing committee of the World Committee on Radiation Risk, an
organization of independent radiation specialists, including members
of the Radiation Committee in the EU parliament, the European
Committee on Radiation Risk. She is an environmental commissioner
for the City of Berkeley. Ms. Moret earned her BS in geology at U.C.
Davis in 1968 and her MA in Near Eastern studies from U.C. Berkeley
in 1978. She has completed all but her dissertation for a PhD in the
geosciences at U.C. Davis. She has traveled and conducted scientific
research in 42 countries. She wrote a scientific report on depleted
uranium for the United Nations sub commission investigating the
illegality of depleted uranium munitions. Marian Falk, a former
Manhattan Project scientist and retired insider at the Livermore Lab,
who is an expert on radioactive fallout and rainout, has trained her
on radiation issues.
(Don) So let's get into it. I'll ask you to tell the folks what
depleted uranium is.
(Leuren) Depleted uranium basically is the radioactive trash from the
nuclear weapons and the nuclear power plant programs, and three
isotopes of uranium occur in nature, so when it is mined those three
isotopes are extracted from the ore. The DU is about 99.9% U-238,
0.72% U-235 that is the fissionable isotope used in nuclear bombs and
reactor fuel, and there's just a trace of U-234 left in a tenth of a
percent of the remainder. So what they do is they make a gas out of
it, and they extract half a percent of the U-235 and what is left,
which is 99.95% of what they mine, is called depleted uranium because
it is depleted in U-235. It does not mean that it is depleted in
radioactivity; it's actually very radioactive., pstonard@ix.netcom.com
(Don) What kind of a half-life do these constituents of the depleted
uranium have?
(Leuren) The half life of U-238, which is the majority of what we're
talking about, is 4.5 billion years and it's actually a component of
meteorites, planets, stars, space dust and it is distributed
throughout the earth at about 2.4 parts per million, and because it
is radioactive, it releases tiny amounts of heat over time and that
is why we have a liquid or molten interior in the earth. It's from
the decay of U-238.
(Don) Do you have any idea of how much depleted uranium the U.S. has
in its national inventory?
(Leuren) Yes, the U.S. has about a million tons of depleted uranium.
Most of it is stored in canisters as uranium hexafluoride, and it's
just really an environmental problem. There is no place to dispose
of it so in 1974, against the advice of the Department of Energy,
the Department of Defense began testing and manufacturing weapons
made out of DU and the first system was manufactured by Hughes
Aircraft. It was called the Phalanx System developed by the Navy and
within six months of the Navy testing it, they had sold it to 14
branches of the U.S. military and other countries. We have now sold
DU weapons systems to 29 countries.
(Don) In what kind of weapons is this DU used?
(Leuren) Well, depleted uranium is made in every caliber [and used in
projectiles] for handguns, tanks, cannons, all the way up to large
bombs weighing more than 5,000 lbs [and also used in the body of] the
Warthog airplane. So everything from handguns to bombs practically
has...many have conventional weapons for ammunition but they also
have them in depleted uranium. A lot of systems are interchangeable.
You can put a DU warhead in a bomb or a conventional warhead in the
same bomb.
(Don) Did I hear you say they're using depleted uranium in the actual
airplanes themselves?
(Leuren) Oh, yeah. The US Air Force and the US Army are the largest
users of depleted uranium. For instance, [DU is] very, very
frequently used in the A-10 Warthog, but other [military] planes, and
weapons systems carried by many planes, have DU.
(Don) Now why would they use it in the construction of an airplane itself?
(Leuren) Oh, depleted uranium or uranium metal is nearly twice as
dense as lead and so instead of using larger amounts of a dense
material like lead, they can use smaller amounts of depleted uranium
as ballast in planes, so they use it in commercial planes and in
military planes as ballast along the wings and the tail to balance
the plane. [It's] very similar to the lead lugs they put on tires
when we go and get our tires balanced.
(Don) Well, I guess, anyway, the DU being in the wings and tail
wouldn't be of any significant threat to the occupants of the plane
itself.
(Leuren) It's not to the occupants of the plane; it is to crash site
investigators when a plane crashes. There was depleted uranium in
whatever hit the Pentagon on 9-11 and I'm the only journalist in the
world who even wrote an article about it. The German science journal
Nature picked up my article and actually wrote its own [article]
based on the interviews I did. It's used in golf clubsŠit's used in
many, many surprising things and because there is so much of it,
which the Department of Energy has, they're trying to find ways to
dispose of it. And there are proposals now to put it inside building
blocks to construct buildings with. So if this continues we'll be
living in radioactive buildings and then the terrible thing is that
when the aluminum from planes or the metal from planes is recycled,
the DU is not removed, so the metal that is re-manufactured will
contain radioactive DU mixed in with it.
(Don) Now, of this one million tons of depleted uranium in the United
StatesŠhow is that stored?
(Leuren) Oh, it's stored at, for instance, Oakridge, Tennessee.
There's a big nuclear weapons lab facility there and it's stored as
uranium hexafluoride gas in huge drums, and they're just stacked
outside on top of each other. It's also stored at Portsmouth, Ohio
and other locations -- Hanford in Washington State.
(Don) So the storage issue itself must be quite problematic.
(Leuren) It's very problematic and the canisters that it's stored in,
the big drums, are subject to corrosion on the outside and the
barrels that are stored closest to the ground and subjected to
moisture and heat and bacterial action corrode faster.
(Don) Now, in the bombs that were dropped on Iraq and Afghanistan,
what percentage of depleted uranium would be typically used in those
bombs?
(Leuren) That's a classified piece of information, but I would
suspect that much of [the bombs' weight] is the depleted uranium
ballast, and because it's so dense and heavy, as it falls there's a
lot of kinetic energy [produced] and when it hits the ground or when
a uranium shell hits a target, that kinetic energy is converted into
heat. So when the bomb hits the ground, you can actually identify
depleted uranium bombs because the uranium is very hot. Probably some
of it is liquid or molten and there is a shower of tiny pieces of
depleted uranium that are on fire. It splutters all over the place
and at least 70% is aerosolized into particles and fumes and dust of
radioactive depleted uranium oxides that are smaller than bacteria or
viruses. These [particles] are hundreds and thousands of times
smaller than blood cells, so it's inhaled by anyone in the
contaminated areas, both enemy and our own soldiers. And [those
particles] go directly into the bloodstream and are distributed like
fairy dust throughout the body. And it's insoluble so the body
cannot excrete it and it just destroys a person's body over time.
(Don) So it's likely that practically all the individuals, let's say
in Baghdad including the U.S. Marines, are contaminated with depleted
uranium now.
(Leuren) Anyone within 1,000 miles of Iraq; anyone within 1,000 miles
of Afghanistan is potentially contaminated now. It's not just the
people [living] in the country. Anyone going to Iraq or Afghanistan
now will become contaminated. There's no way to escape it.
(Don) Now, for the average soldier over there, what types of
reactions would this likely be causing in the body?
(Leuren) In the first Gulf War they used an estimated 340 or 350 tons
of DU and the amount used is increasing every year. So there were
terrible effects from that [which people know as] the Gulf War
Syndrome. In Afghanistan a thousand tons were used, three times as
much. The entire country, the water supplies, the infrastructure were
bombed, and now in last March and April they used at least 2,200
tons, which is eight to ten times more than what they used in Gulf
War One, and like Afghanistan, they bombed the whole country, the
towns, the cities, the villages, the water supplies, the whole
infrastructure of the country. So civilians and soldiers will be
experiencing skin rashes, which is the heavy metal effect; they will
have dental problems, respiratory problems. It's causing heart damage
and brain damage. The effects will be much more severe and much
faster now than what we know of in Afghanistan or the first Gulf War
in 1991.
In Kuwait, which is downwind [of Iraq], and DU was used in Kuwait,
doctors are reporting three times the number of congenital heart
problems with newborn babies. Those are the birth defects. Gulf
War soldiers who served in 1991 had normal babies before the Gulf
War. [In a study of 251 Gulf War veterans by the Department of
Veterans Affairs, it was determined that 67% of the babies born to
soldiers after the Gulf War had severe birth defects]. They were born
without brains, without eyes, [with] organs missing, without legs or
arms, or they had terrible radiation related blood diseases for
instance.
(Don) How many years is this effect likely to go on?
(Leuren) It will be forever. The half life of depleted uranium is 4
and a half billion years, but even worse, over time as the
Uranium-238 decays, it transforms four times into much more
radioactive daughter products or daughter isotopes and they are more
radioactive than uranium-238 by millions and billions of times, so
the level of radioactivity will increase over time, and that's why we
call depleted uranium the Trojan Horse of Nuclear War. Depleted
uranium is a nuclear weapon and it is a weapon of mass destruction
under the U.S. government definition of WMDs.
(Don) Now you have done some comparison, I believe, as to the
radiation effects from the bomb dropped on Nagasaki in relation to
the radiation in Iraq and Afghanistan. Would you like to talk about
that?
(Leuren) Yes. In October 16 to 19, 2003 there was a very, very
excellent and very important world conference on depleted uranium
weapons held in Hamburg, Germany. Two hundred people from 20
countries and five continents attended [including] scientific,
medical, legal experts, organizers, and activists and there were also
Iraqi medical doctors and scientists there. And I've never been to a
conference like that. It was very, very interesting, very informative
and sometimes difficult to have all of the affected parties involved.
But some of the talks presented very important facts, and a Japanese
physicist, professor Yagasaki from Okinawa, presented one of them.
He had calculated the atomicity equivalent of the Nagasaki bomb to
depleted uranium, and the atomicity means the number of radioactive
atoms. So he calculated that 800 tons of depleted uranium is the
atomicity equivalent of 83,000 Nagasaki bombs. So [the total
atomicity], roughly estimating the amount of depleted uranium weapons
used in Afghanistan and Iraq and former Yugoslavia, is approximately
equivalent to 400,000 Nagasaki bombs. In all of the testing by the
nuclear states during the Cold War, the [atomicity] equivalent of
only 40,000 [Nagasaki] bombs was [produced], so this is roughly ten
times the amount of radiation that was released during nuclear
weapons testing. This is just an absolutely horrendous amount of
radiation. The U.S. has staged a nuclear war in Iraq and in the
Middle East and Central Asia, and the northern half of India all the
way through Turkey and Iran and the Russian oil-rich states, the
Caspian oil region, and half of Egypt, Israel and the Saudi Arabian
peninsula. These areas are now all contaminated.
(Don) There are measurable signs of depleted uranium in those countries?
(Leuren) There was before. There was in the Saudi Arabian peninsula,
Kuwait, Hungary, Greece -- this was all reported after the 1991
bombing. Over time, [with] these very dry climates, the extreme dust
storms and wind storms transport the radioactive material. The dust,
as atmospheric dust, [is] scattered all over Europe. It's
transported across the Atlantic to North Carolina and the southern
United States coastal areas, the Caribbean, and these dust storms
carry sand all over Europe. I've lived in England in the 1960s and
70s, and sometimes Sahara dust was on our windshields in the morning
in the streets. It's known from mediaeval times.
(Don) So it seems to me that, especially now and in future years, not
so future either, with the lowering of our quality of food and of our
immune system, that even in the fringe areas and areas around the
world where there's not so much of this dust, that DU is going to
have an effect on [the number of] cancer deaths.
(Leuren) Well I am a geoscientist, so I study the earth and earth
processes. [I do] research at U.C. Davis -- I haven't finished my
dissertation yet, but my research has been on atmospheric dust. I
was studying the ice record, glaciers on the top of the Andes and
Greenland and Antarctica and on top of the Himalayas, Mount
Kilimanjaro in Africa, and [the study of] these ice records on
glaciers are like the study of tree rings. They have an annual record
of the dust transported around the world and also atmospheric gases,
and the radiation released each year is preserved in each layer of
ice. So we know from volcanic eruptions, like Mount Pinatubo in the
Philippines, that the dust from volcanoes, the volcanic dust and ash,
is globally mixed throughout the entire atmosphere in one year. So
whatever they have been bombing with is, in one year, globally mixed
throughout the entire atmosphere. And right now the world is in a
global cancer epidemic and other radiation related diseases, which is
a result of the Cold War weapons testing. We've added ten times as
much radiation to the Middle East and Central Asia. Much of it will
remain in the area recycling through the waters, the dust, the food,
and the air. It's inescapable. But a lot of it will also be
transported throughout the world. And remember that cancer starts
with a single atom of uranium, a single alpha particle or gamma ray
released from one atom under the right conditions. So it doesn't
just affect humans, it affects all life. Everything will mutate, will
be affected, if it's exposed under the right conditions.
(Don) Well, the question that comes to mind is: Do the people who are
waging war against the world in the United States and those that are
releasing depleted uranium to be used in these weapons, realize the
effects of depleted uranium on the environment and on people?
(Leuren) Of course. The United States has since spent 300 billion
dollars-that's a conservative estimate up to 1995-on nuclear weapons
development. I worked at two nuclear weapons laboratories: The
Lawrence Berkeley Lab, and the Lawrence Livermore Lab. This entire
time they have conducted detailed and very extensive studies on the
biological effects of radiation. They absolutely know everything
about the impact on the environment and on human health of what they
are doing, and when I worked at Livermore from 1989 to '91, [before]
I finally walked out one day and became a whistleblower, I watched
teams of radiation experts leaving that lab monthly, weekly, yearly
traveling to radioactive contaminated sites all over the world,
taking collections of plant materials and living materials like the
fish out of the rivers or the lagoons. [They also studied] the human
guinea pigs, people at Chernobyl, at the Pacific Islands where
nuclear weapons were tested and even Americans [in the] the nuclear
weapons program and the nuclear power plant program. They have
special laboratories at Los Alamos Nuclear Weapons Lab and Livermore.
They have special units with instruments to measure the radiation and
samples, freezers to keep the samples in, and in the labs that I've
worked in, there are charts with defective sperm on the walls. I
remember walking by them every day. They know everything.
(Don) So if they know the effects of depleted uranium on people, does
that not then make them the highest type of war criminals?
(Leuren) These are the highest types of war criminals. These people
have developed weapons of mass destruction knowing full well what the
health and environmental effects are, and they have spent tremendous
amounts of money and effort to hide this from not just the American
people, but from the global community. They have constructed a huge
and a very connected apparatus of scientists, scientific journals,
medical professionals, academic institutions, secret radiation labs,
and nuclear weapons laboratories. We have over 550 national
laboratories in the United States-I think the number has been reduced
maybe to 250, but there were over 3,500 facilities in the United
States, which functioned as part of the nuclear weapons complex.
There's no way that they don't know everything and the international
nuclear-I call them the nuclear Mafia-has mostly been controlled by
the United States. It's all to hide the health and environmental
effects.
(Don) They seem not to be only the highest types of criminals, but
they seem to be insane. I mean only an insane...
(Leuren) It's a culture of insanity! You're absolutely right. I
worked at the Livermore Nuclear Weapons Lab. I saw people go to work
every day. Their friends were dying of cancer. Some of them had
cancer. You know that a nuclear weapons lab paycheck is about 30 to
40% more than scientists would make in a private sector academia. So
people get addicted to that money and their wives die of brain
cancer. Their children die of leukemia and they still go to work
every day.
(Don) Yeah, George W.'s son and progeny are going to be affected for all time.
(Leuren) George Bush Jr., our president now, he and all of his
siblings have learning disabilities as a result of being exposed to
nuclear weapons testing fallout during the Cold War. And his toddler
sister died of leukemia when she was just a couple of years old. His
whole family has been affected by nuclear weapons testing. This is
the insanity of it. They do it anyway.
(Don) Yeah, it doesn't bode very well to be ruled by people that are
brain cell deficient, that's for sure.
(Leuren) Well, it's had a tremendous effect on the I.Q. and the
learning ability of all American children. The SAT scores, the
average SAT scores for the entire population of 18 year-olds,
teenagers in their last year of high school when they are given the
SAT tests, declined from 475 which was the average score for 20 years
before bomb testing started and it started in about 1946. By 1963 the
SAT scores for children born that year, [those children] exposed in
utero to the radiation and receiving brain damage, [declined
nationwide] to 425. As soon as the test ban treaty was signed
between the U.S. and Russia in 1963, SAT scores started going up
again. But what the United States did was sacrifice an entire
generation of children to test nuclear weapons. The same thing is
happening now because of nuclear power plants and one out of twelve
children have learning disabilities in the U.S. What cost is that to
our society?
(Don) Hasn't Baghdad, and maybe even the whole country of Iraq, been
made virtually an area that is not suitable for living in now?
(Leuren) Oh, and the regions within a thousand miles. The Middle
East and Central Asia are radioactive. People shouldn't be living
there; nothing should be living there. And I began to read-I
couldn't believe it-when I started researching it, I just couldn't
believe it. I couldn't believe what had happened. I couldn't
believe they were using depleted uranium in the amounts they were
using. And when that Japanese professor calculated the atomicity
equivalent of Nagasaki bombs, I started making maps of the areas
contaminated and when I saw the map with circles drawn around
Afghanistan and Iraq with a one thousand mile radius, I knew there
was a deeper purpose. But I still couldn't understand why they'd
used it. No other country has used it. The U.S. broke a 46-year
taboo in 1991 and used it. No other countries have used it since
then. There has to be a reason, and I began to read The Grand
Chessboard by Brzezinski. Anyway he, Zbigniew Brzezinski -- it's
called The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy and Its Geo-strategic
Imperative -- wrote it in 1998 but it's a blueprint, absolutely, for
U.S. foreign policy being carried out in Central Asia and the Middle
East. And they have basically bombed the major oil rich regions in
the Eurasian area. This is not going to stop. It's going to continue.
Call-in portion of Interview
(Caller #1) Listening to your guest. Great topic. Good guest! I've
just got a few things to say. I was just thinking about this. I
think you are absolutely right when you say that the people who are
doing these kind of things to humanity, there is no other reason:
they must either just be insane or incredibly sinister and perhaps
another reason exists that maybe we don't really think about. Has
anyone ever thought that maybe these leaders, these mad bombers and
serial killers such as George W. Bush and his father -- what about
the theory that these people are really reptilians from another
dimension or planet perhaps who have invaded our human areas and who
are carrying out their own agenda?
(Don) Well I don't know if I'd like to degrade the reptilian race by
saying they're reptilians. (Laugh)
(Caller #1) OK. I don't know what other reason exists other than I
didn't realize people are [so] completely sinister and I throw in a
guy like George W. Bush, of course. But I'll just hang up now and
listen to your comments and perhaps your guest's comments. Thank you.
(Caller #2) Well, I'd just like to discuss for example Helen
Caldicott, who has been active in struggling against nuclear weapons
proliferation, and there are groups out there struggling against
radiation and all different types of organizations fighting to reduce
the amount of damage done through militarism and international
aggression and so on. But there seems to be a real lack of
democratic decision-making processes within these organizations.
(Don) That's for sure.
(Caller #2) Yeah. There is very little in the way of public
involvement and there is virtually no democratic decision-making that
is taking place just based on the empirical information relevant to
the decisions to be made, rather than the persuasive, coercive
influence of leadership elements and PR firms, advertising agencies,
media organizations, and different groups within these organizations.
I wonder if maybe she could speak to that, if there is any
organization she's aware of that are more democratic?
(Caller #3) I just had a question for Leuren. I was wondering which
countries in Europe would be safe from contamination? Where would it
be safe to visit?
(Don) I think she's said that basically the whole world is
contaminated but it's just to a lesser degree. I would imagine that
there's a gradual [reduction] of radioactivity away from the central
bombing areas, but we'll go back to Leuren.
(Leuren) In terms of less contaminated areas, I would think Europe
would be OK. Turkey is in the region of potential contamination and,
if you are going for short visits, you have a better chance of not
becoming contaminated. Of course there is no safe level of radiation
exposure, but the people living in these regions, chronically exposed
24 hours a day to air borne [and] water borne [radiation], and [to]
food contaminated with radiation, will be the most affected. It's
just everywhere. It's really, I think, the greatest tragedy that
humanity has faced. So I feel terrible about people who went to Iraq
as human shields, to media who were there-they're all contaminated.
And when I was in Japan last summer I met the human shield people
from Japan-they're sick with depleted uranium exposure and over time
it just continues to act in the body. So people really need to think
about where they are going and be aware of the potential risk. Now
the other question the gentleman had about this need for openness and
democracy in the decision-making process [concerning] the nuclear
weapons program, nuclear power plants, and now the DU, because it's
all the same-it's alpha, beta, or gamma exposure internally whether
it's coming out of nuclear weapons, nuclear power plants, or depleted
uranium or the radioactive weapons. The problem is that the secrecy
has allowed these programs to be developed when they do tremendous
harm to human health and all species, as well as the impact on the
environment. And right now the United States is gearing up for a
nuclear war. We now have nuclear weapons spending at the highest
level ever-even [than] during the Cold War. It's higher now than
during the Cold War and the United States has no enemies. This is
causing other countries to also increase nuclear weapons development
and what I was shocked to discover in my research is that Japan and
Germany are now tied in second place. They have passed Russia in
nuclear weapons development. And the deeper purpose for all of this
is to play nuclear blackmail and to frighten other countries into
developing their nuclear weapons and thinking they need them. For
instance, India is afraid of Pakistan. Pakistan is afraid of India.
Japan is afraid of North Korea. North Korea is afraid of South Korea.
So everyone is developing nuclear weapons and what's really happening
is the US is manipulating these countries rimming China to develop
nuclear weapons programs and we are enticing them to be our nuclear
partners with China as a common and the real enemy.
(Don) I have so many more questions to ask you. One of the ones I
wanted to ask is, what about the groundwater? Is that going to be
contaminated for all time and how far away [from the areas of
conflict] would it be contaminated?
(Leuren) The groundwater is contaminated of course. Over time, as the
leftover bullets and ammunition that did not burn degrade and weather
with the heat, and [with] the cold and seasonal changes-rain, snow,
and the wind-[depleted uranium contamination] migrates into the
groundwater. So there's just a constant new supply of depleted
uranium oxides and metal which will be released into the air and
migrate through the ground into the groundwater. A study that the
United Nations Environmental Program released last March 2003
reported that 25% of the bare metal, uranium bullets and weapons in
the soil in Yugoslavia, had dissolved since 1998. So if 25% of the
munitions buried in the ground dissolved in four or five years in a
wet climate, it will be slower in desert areas, but it's going to
continue contaminating groundwater, soil, food and air.
(Don) And I think-you have mentioned that these particles go down
into very fine sizes, so [I would imagine] there's no way they can be
filtered out of the water.
(Leuren) There's no way to filter it out. It goes through all gas
masks. It goes through all filters. These particles are a tenth of a
micron or smaller. A red blood cell is seven microns and a white
blood cell is about ten microns, so they are much, much smaller than
even blood cells.
(Don) Before we wrap it up, I would like you to give us contacts on
the website where people can find more information.
(Leuren) People can go to an excellent website:
and just do a Google search on my name,
Moret.
They can also go to: . That's the
Traprock Peace Center in Connecticut. They have an excellent
website. Lots of people get a lot of good information from it and
they have a lot of information on depleted uranium.
Those are probably the two best websites that I know of. There's a
letter to Congressman McDermott that I wrote. They could do a Google
search on "letter to McDermott". He's a Congressman from Seattle,
Washington who has introduced a bill in Congress, and I wrote him a
letter with a lot of details. The attachments and the references are
also on the website with a letter. That's on the mindfully.org
website, and then [there's] my testimony for the International
Criminal Tribunal for Afghanistan of December 13, 2003, which is also
on the mindfully.org website. That [testimony] has fourteen
questions that the prosecutor sent me to answer, and there are
questions like: What does the U.S. government know about DU? (My
answer was twelve pages long). What is the connection between
depleted uranium and fourth generation nuclear weapons? And then,
what are the environmental and human effects?
(Don) What I think has to happen is [that] some organizations in
Vancouver have to get together and bring you into Vancouver for a
large meeting.
(Don asks remaining callers to give comments only)
(Caller #4) Well I was wondering about the possibility of certain
plants being used to decontaminate the human body and [the] possible
development of bacteria that might be used for that purpose also?
(Don) I was asking for comments. We don't have time for questions now.
(Caller #4) Well my comment is that it is one big inhumane,
parasitic, military-industrial, ecocidal and social atrocity.
(Don) Thank you. `
Last comment of Leuren Moret:
(Leuren) I would like to read a quote from Henry Kissinger.
"Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in
foreign policy". This is what the elite believe about our military.
I am now working with an international group of scientists and
radiation experts. We are forming a World Committee on Radiation
Risks comprised of honest researchers to help citizens, elected
officials, affected populations and individuals to learn the truth
about radiation, and to work toward an international moratorium on
depleted uranium and other radioactive weapons. So watch for us.
The European Committee on Radiation Risk, within the European
Parliament, has just published an excellent report on low-level
radiation and you can get it at:
And now the citizens of the world, the scientists of the world, the
radiation experts of the world-we have to all work together and it's
not hopeless. But people need good information.
